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This NSA Scandal Is A White People Problem by Tommy Christopher | 3:57 pm, June 14th, 2013 Tweet
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In case you hadn’t heard, the National Security Agency is Red-Weddinging Americans’ freedom by backing up phone records and collecting internet data from overseas (some of which involves communications
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with Americans), all with warrants, and all of which they need to get extra warrants if they want to look at Americans’ stuff. The horror.
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While the white media completely freaks out from every possible angle, they’ve been all but ignoring a true abuse of the Fourth Amendment, and saying every stupid thing possible in the process.
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revelations to come, but what has been revealed so far is about as alarming as an epidemic of Pac Man Fever, which is a far more recent threat than that presented by these revelations. The phone records that the NSA has been gathering consist of numbers
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(not names) and times, information that, before last week, I always assumed was readily available to the government whenever they wanted it, as long as they had a warrant. As it turns out, they did have a warrant, and collected the information (without looking at it) because otherwise, the phone companies destroy it over time. They still need a warrant to look at the data on individual Americans. Ditto the Prism program, which collects internet data via legal means (not by unilaterally plugging into all of the servers of internet companies), and requires another warrant to look at the information on individual Americans. Is there “potential for abuse” of these programs? Yes, but as people keep pointing out (while they ignore it), the same is true of a tape recorder. Remember when J. Edgar Hoover put Martin Luther King,
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at with a search warrant? Neither do I.
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Granted, the technology has increased the potential scope of potential abuse, but that’s true of every technology. My phone records being archived by the government isn’t all that scary. Googling the phrase
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“that TV show where…” and having the answer I was looking for come up third on the list of suggestions? That’s scary. But I thought the idea of technology stealing our souls was settled with that whole “camera” thing.
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The problem isn’t with what can be done with the technology, it’s with what we are doing to control it, which, in the case of government surveillance, is next to nothing. Remember those “warrants” I kept
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talking about? Well, those warrants are issued by a secret court, a secret court that never says no, and in which there is no opposition to MORE FROM AROUND THE WEB by Zergnet
the government. The government doesn’t even have to get a warrant before they perform a search, either. They have 72 hours after the
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search to apply for a warrant. With a court like that, it’s hard to understand how anyone even could abuse the law. It’s like stealing things from a free store.
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If this disturbs you, it should. If it doesn’t, it’s probably because you were either not born, or were too busy watching Grape Ape, when that court was created. Since then, the other check on government surveillance, the U.S. Conngress, has somehow found ways to expand
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the government’s legal surveillance capacity, and is now suddenly shocked to learn that they don’t know about the things they skipped briefings about. People like Chris Hayes keep saying how “complicated” this issue is, but it’s really quite simple: congressional
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and judicial oversight of government surveillance is a joke, and have been since KC had a Sunshine Band. Despite the collective angst of the media, the American people don’t seem inclined to change that. Given the current state of things, it is amazing how not abused this
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power has been. That hasn’t stopped the media from going all Chicken Little, some because they’re desperate to “have the conversation,” some because
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they want to attack President Obama to prove varying types of cred, and some because they’d like even less fettering of the surveillance state. I think we do need to “have the conversation” about government surveillance, but it should begin in 1978, not last week, when the world
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discovered that the first black president was in charge of it. What’s ridiculous about this is the proportion of the coverage. According to TV Eyes, the NSA scandal has been mentioned on cable
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almost 3,000 times in a little over a week, since the Verizon story broke. In a sense, this is commendable, because despite the American people’s clear apathy about this kind of surveillance, journalists have decided that this is important. That’s one of the most important functions that the Fourth Estate can serve. Would you like to know how many mentions there have been about a story in which the government systematically performs warrantless searches of millions of innocent Americans’ phone records? Two hundred and sixty-seven. Wait, I f*cked that up, it wasn’t 267 this past week,it was 30. It was 267 mentions these past three months. Oh, and it wasn’t warrantless searches of phone numbers and call times, it was warrantless searches of actual American people’s persons, their physical, IRL
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Why is that? It’s hard to tell, but maybe it has something to do with the fact that the Stop and Frisk policy overwhelmingly affects the privacy
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of innocent black and Latino people. It’s not for lack of a hot news peg. Even if the merits of the story don’t turn you on, the Obama administration just signaled it will file briefs in support of the plaintiff in a suit against the policy. If the last several weeks have made one thing
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clear about the media, it’s that the best way to get them to care about government abuse, or anything, is to do it to white people. Much like these NSA programs, the Stop and Frisk policy isn’t
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inherently abusive. It is based on a law that allows police to stop someone on the street if they have “reasonable suspicion” that the individual “is committing, has committed or is about to commit” a crime, and “demand of him his name, address and an explanation of his
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conduct.” That’s the “Stop” part of “Stop and Frisk.” In order to move on to “Frisk,” the officer must “reasonably suspect that he is in danger of physical injury.”
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In practice, though, the policy has resulted in over half a million stops per year, stops which have disproportionately targeted minorities, in the same way that Scooby Snacks™ disproportionately target Scooby Doo. I know there are some folks who would like to explain this as a
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then how do you explain this: White people, who represent about 12% of those stopped, white people were almost twice as likely to be found with drugs or weapons than black people? Are white people inherently more criminal? I don’t think so. I think the abuse of this policy is rooted in the concept of “reasonable suspicion,” which, according to the Supreme Court, requires circumstances similar to these: US Courts have held that a stop on reasonable suspicion may be appropriate in the following cases: when a person possesses unusual items (like a wire hanger) which would be useful in a crime and is looking into car windows at 2 am, when a person matches a description of a suspect given by another officer, or when a person runs away at the sight of a peace officer. However, reasonable suspicion does not apply merely because a person refuses to answer questions, declines to allow a voluntary search, or is of a particular race or ethnicity. The sheer volume of stops indicates that the police are applying an interpretation of “reasonable suspicion” that’s considerably looser than that, especially given that they are wrong 90% of the time. Whatever standard of suspicion they’re using, it is apparently less reasonable than the suspicion that President Obama is the Antichrist. But according to the program stats, the police are far more accurate at judging suspicious behavior in white people. That tells me that they could probably use to stop a few more white people, but also that they could use to become more adept at discerning suspicious behavior in others. Whatever it is that stops cops from searching more innocent white people should also be used to help them quit harassing minorities, especially black people. Just as those Stop and Frisk stats have everything to do with the cultural biases of the power structure, so does the mainstream media’s disproportionate interest in the NSA scandal over other, far more alarming injustices. While MSNBC (including Chris Hayes, whom I am not trying to pick on) has covered Stop and Frisk much more than its competitors (about 50% more than Fox News, and 900% more than CNN!), the overall discrepancy is indicative of a lack of diverse viewpoints in journalism. Abuses like Stop and Frisk have been occurring for centuries, and have a lot more in common with J. Edgar Hoover than Barack Obama does. While we’re busy having the conversation about what the government might do with Prism, maybe we could make some room for what it’s already doing to millions of innocent citizens. Have a tip we should know?
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Join the discussion… More Liberty • 5 years ago
Two points, I have to agree that NYC's "Stop and Frisk" procedures are clearly a violation of the 4th Amendment as well as a well established case law. This is just another example of why minorities, as well as the rest of Americans, should not trust government or establishment media. However, Mr Christopher either is ignorant of the fact, or refuses to point it out that the "warrants" used by the NSA to gather and store metadata are nothing more than general warrants. They have neither probable cause nor name a specific target of the warrant. These "warrants" are nothing more than general warrants, which gave British soldiers the ability to search anyone and everyone, their effects and their homes all without probable cause or a specific target. This was one of the reasons the founders wrote the 4th Amendment. It requires government to show probable cause and to show a magistrate that evidence to prove guilt will be present. The violations of the 4th Amendment via the NYC and the federal government are both wrong. • Reply • Share ›
austinrob • 5 years ago
Tommy has hated white people ever since these pale-skinned extra-terrestrials abducted him and...did things to him. Sexual things. 4
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andthecrowdgoeswild • 5 years ago
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the palest of them all? When a Caucasoid genius be throwing down on the NSA in defense of the non-white others, you know he's jumped the great white shark. The pained desperation that underlies this cry for love is a Spinal Tap 11. Being the pale imitation of a hip radical that he be, Tommy needs to vent out the dorkiness a few times a week. How to do that? Turn a story about the NSA into a knockoff of an 80's Spike Lee movie. Does this make Tommy any less of the dorky white dude people slide away, if God forbid, he tries out his Vanilla Ice routine at the Mediaite XMas party? We report, you laugh. 4
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AriesJG • 5 years ago
Clearly Tommy has noticed there is a short, nay, a non-existent line, forming to become the next Chris Matthews, so at least let's give Tommy credit for identifying this void. 4
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normankelley • 5 years ago
Well, according to Rep. Nadler there seems to be surveillance without warrants. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1... 1
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Guest • 5 years ago
This NSA Scandal Is A White People Problem with a black president in Charge!!! • Reply • Share ›
dmacleo • 5 years ago
wrong is wrong. race/color do not matter. 3
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Dusty Thompson • 5 years ago
The Democrat Party has always been racist and today its no different as this article clearly points out. Democrats were the slave owners. The GOP was created to abolish slavery. The Democrat fought the GOP in a Civil War and lost. The KKK is the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. The Democrats lynched Black people. The Democrats wrote Jim Crowe Laws. The Democrats were against Civil Rights in the 60s. Lead By Al Gore Sr. Martin Luther King was a Republican and was killed by a Democrat. All fact... How well did "The great Society" work out? Trillions spent and trillions more in debt. 5
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Dusty Thompson • 5 years ago
You left out the modifier "conservative' re the Democratic Party in the South. 2
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Dusty Thompson • 5 years ago
Sorry dusty . .you made up half that garbage. • Reply • Share ›
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Dusty Thompson • 5 years ago
............and your point is? Or are you suggesting that Rick Santorum is secretly a Democrat? 2
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Dusty Thompson • 5 years ago
Who pays an idiot like this to "write" anything? 7
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thebagman45 • 5 years ago
I don't understand why the author finds the need to stake out "hey, this has been happening in various forms for a while" if he also believes that it's a "worthwhile conversation." The "happening for a while' argument just seems to be a way to minimize the political damage to Obama. 4
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thebagman45 • 5 years ago
No it's an open call for those who haven't been effected by this "phenomena" to now come join the party. It's something that's been said for a longer time than I can remember, the invasive and intrusive policing practices. But, now that it effects others as well, it's a national tragedy. If not, there'd be a blind justification for it, as is usually the case. • Reply • Share ›
HARP2 • 5 years ago
I guess Tommy thinks it`s all to complicated for blacks to understand. With Obama he might be right. 4
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sam2sam • 5 years ago
If you want to know what the NSA is REALLY doing with your life and communications, read this: http://rapidcityjournal.com... • Reply • Share ›
Tim_Bucktoo • 5 years ago
Whites hate blacks!!! Thanks for the info Tommy. 1
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ParkerShannon • 5 years ago
That's racist! • Reply • Share ›
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ParkerShannon • 5 years ago
Of course it's racist, but it's racism directed at whites, which is okay! • Reply • Share ›
GregWhitenerel • 5 years ago
Let's cut to the chase my white brethren Neimoller said it best: When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. 4
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gastorgrab • 5 years ago
'Stop and Frisk' is only comparable if you stop and frisk everyone in a city. Warrants AND reasonable suspicion must be specific. Each individual citizen has the right to his own due process, and he cannot be grouped by general or arbitrary observations and labeled 'suspect'. Institutional racism is the very same violation. It is a corruption or law, not of personal opinions. The fact that Martin Luther King had his rights violated in the past does not justify the violation of anyone's rights today. • Reply • Share ›
Bacchus101 • 5 years ago
Nice article. • Reply • Share ›
Guest • 5 years ago
Isn't a black guy in charge of the NSA thing? And the IRS thing.....and the Benghazi thing. 8
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Guest • 5 years ago
an inconvenient truth!!!! 1
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Guest • 5 years ago
How about the reporter from NBC that has been reporting on Benghazi and other Obama wrongdoing that got her work and home computer hacked? Sure, no abuse there. 6
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eric jefferson • 5 years ago
Another splendid article from you sir. 1
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Alex Chamberlain • 5 years ago
Two things. First off, I oppose PRISM and Stop & Frisk for the exact same reason. They are both illegal per the Fourth Amendment. SCOTUS got is wrong on Terry v Ohio, the ruling that authorized this kind of stop. They were wrong. I don't care what the judges said. Read the Federalist Papers, read the writings of the people who wrote the Bill of Rights. You can not argue in good conscience that either program is legal. I don't care if the Constitution was written over 200 years ago and times have changed. Then you change the Constitution by amending it, not ignoring it. You ignore it, and the entire basis of American law collapses. The literal foundation of our government crumbles. Second, I don't care if the NSA never listens to a single one of my phone calls, or reads a single one of my emails or w/e. I don't want them to have them. I don't want every thing I do kept and stored. And whether you TC, or Lindsey Graham, or Barack Obama, or John McCain, or George Bush like it or not, I have the legal, Constitutional right to not have my communications and activities recorded and stored by the government. Right now, as of June 14, 2013, I have the right to have my digital life kept secret from the government unless they get a warrant based on probable cause. 11
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Alex Chamberlain • 5 years ago
Oh, in that case you should not post anything on the web at all; you just left a trail in the internet -- just visiting Mediaite leaves stats with the following data collectors: AddThis, ChartBeat, CivicScience, Disqus, Facebook Connect, Facebook Social Plugins, Google +1, Google Adsense, Reddit, SkimlinksGoogle Analytics, Magnify Stats, Onswipe, Outbrain, Quantcast, SkimLinks, Twitter Button, Most of them store this kind of information: Browser Information, Date/Time, Demographic Data, Hardware/Software Type, Interaction Data , Page Views , Serving Domains, IP Address, Clickstream Data and the data is shared with 3rd parties. So much as to "your right to have your digital life kept secret". 2
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antiquark • 5 years ago
I said, secret from the government. Obviously a public comment section is the same as speaking in public. What I am talking about is private p2p Facebook messages, private emails, phone conversations, credit card purchasing information. I realize that the companies that provide these services store the information. But that's my fault for using those services. But the Constitution isn't a law designed to restrained private companies or individuals. It's a law designed to restrain the government. The government is breaking the law. Either you didn't read what I wrote, or you deliberately twisted my words. 3
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Alex Chamberlain • 5 years ago
oh, i'm not twisting anything .. i just provided a bit of perspective to this hyperbole .. suddenly everybody is screaming about 'privacy' and 'constitution' all the while employers snooping your facebook page ... especially the faux outrage on the right, and that after the patriot act has been passed 12 years ago ... it's hypocritdiculous • Reply • Share ›
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Alex Chamberlain • 5 years ago
tommy wasn't advocating NSA but speaking to how civil liberties of minorities have been violated for years with not so much as a peep from main stream, lame stream and the majority aka white people.. Have we ever had this loud of a debate about Stop and frisk? So many people are being disingenuous right now. That's another reason outrage on NSA in the black community is almost zero.. We've been here for a long time.. Welcome to the party.. The only difference is we have data that proves lives have been ruined by disproportionate prison sentences and such.. You fear a possibility.. For blacks it's our reality.. Of course I'd rather neither exist but its' sad that i'd rather have my phone tapped then the fear I live with of being harassed by police. 6
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ceeza • 5 years ago
Exactamundo! 1
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ceeza • 5 years ago
I live right outside NYC, and as we learned last year, my area of NJ isn't outside of the scope of NYPD snooping. We learned last year they snoop on New Jerseyans. That's a whole different illegal story though. But my point is that yes, I am sure that in Kansas there is not much worry over Stop & Frisk. But in the Tri-State Area of NY, NJ, & CT, there are so many people of every race who are outraged by Stop & Frisk. I am outraged by it and I'm as white as they come. I think Bloomberg and Ray Kelly should be in jail both for S&F as well as the NJ Muslim spy scandal. You can't blame the majority of people who aren't tuned in for not caring about something happening thousands of miles away. I am sure that if you explained S&F to someone in Nebraska who is really angry about the NSA, the majority would be very angry. But the NSA scandal effects every single solitary American of every age, ethnicity, religion, economic status, any one of us who has ever used a phone. That's why people are so angry. Are there people who are only angry because it's Obama in charge? Definitely. But at least in my neck of the woods, there are way more people who were furious when Bush was in charge, who are now fine with it because in their eyes Obama can do no wrong. Then again, I do live in a town that voted 88% for Obama, and 4% for candidates even further to the Left than Obama in 2012. 5
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Alex Chamberlain • 5 years ago
Point is, I shouldn't have to explain it to someone in Nebraska, they should already know as much about it, or more, as they do about the NSA thing. Journalism fail. 3
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Unicon™- One Huge Basket • 5 years ago
Tommy's upset because police keep asking him to just to "move on" 7
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Ron Jackson • 5 years ago
I have been making this point for some time now 2
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
My goodness, Tommy Christopher has spoken and now I see what others have pointed out. He's completely desperate to find a way to turn every story into Race Baiting. No sir, we the readers WILL NOT STAND for it. This story, Warrantless Surveillance has nothing to do with RACE and your attempts are so far out of left field as to prove you have no credibility left. Remind me again why you're still employed there? This story is not just a white people story. This story affects everyone in America and potentially affects everyone in the World because it will define in what kind of World we will live. A Surveillance State one step removed from an Authoritarian Regime that controls everything, instead of a democracy. And democracy does not start with one section of your post where we can say, hey I said this good thing in my opinion piece. It does not work like that. You throw one good item in there to throw of the "liberal wolves" but sprinkle all your other stuff everywhere else. The Surveillance state is bad, no matter whether it started in 1947 with Truman, or in 1978 or in 2001. The thing that controls the state is called the Constitution, and people like you continue to pick and choose the parts of it that you like and don't like. That's what's wrong with the Surveillance State. 19
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
The phrase, "White people problems" doesn't have much to even do with race, so much as it's used to describe trivial pointless things that cause minor annoyance, like having the cable go out, or the laundry still wet after going through the dryer. The fact that you don't know what a white people problem is, and that you're getting all huffy puffy about a crude joke commonly shared amongst hipsters, is a white people problem, you honky. (And in case you missed it, being called a honky is another white people problem, because a stupid phrase used by George Jefferson in the 1970's sitcom All in the Family, does not carry any water.) 5
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Guest • 5 years ago
I was wondering about the term "cracker".......does your satire include that as well? 2
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Guest • 5 years ago
What's a "honky"? Sorry if I don't know the lingo, maybe I don't watch enough Television, I try not to have my mind poisoned by "popular cultural". Then again, I missed much of late 60s/early 70s Popular Culture. But, back to the issue at hand -- you're saying the Surveillance State is a "trivial pointless thing that causes minor annoyance"? And in the end we really shouldn't worry about it because it's similar to having the "cable go out"? And in the end that is what is so f'ed up with this country -- PEOPLE like you and Tommy Christopher. You've never lived under an oppressive regime or a dictatorship -- I have. You don't know what it is like to have your freedoms taken away. Oh, you can "philosophize" about it, and write in general about what it feels like to be "stopped and frisked", but unless it actually happens to you, over and over again, your words ARE COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS. see more
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
You still don't get it . .and quite frankly . THAT is the white people problem, in general. Thanks for playing! 1
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LS Bell • 5 years ago
I don't need to get "it". What you don't seem to understand...after I am in jail, WHO will fight for those causes so near and dear in your's and Tommy's hearts? 2
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
and you will continue to be part of the problem. • Reply • Share ›
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
First of all, when you claim to have lived in a dictatorship, you should probably show something backing that claim up, otherwise it's baseless it makes it incredibly easy for me to dismiss you as someone who is full of BS. (btw, the Ghost in the Shell Avatar doesn't help either.) Second of all "the surveilance state" as you put it, isn't a white person problem, I'm sure Tommy agrees with me that the Patriot Act is an overall bad thing, the personal outrage taken at the Verizon information being recorded by the NSA is, since the only information they have obtained is caller records (and not the actual content of the phonecalls themselves.) If you actually read the article and what it says about the programs, you'll find that the NSA and Justice Department is actually obtaining warrants from the Judicial Branch giving them what is legally considered to be "reason" for search and seizure, meaning that they are legally following the guidelines of the fourth amendment. Even then, the warrant obtained by the NSA and see more
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Guest • 5 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Your support of Tommy Christopher borders on the Sociopathic, unless of course you're lovers. Not that there is anything wrong with that. As to NSA warrantless surveillance and collecting of metadata... Don't listen to me. Listen to the experts. A simple shifting through metadata will reveal a whole lot about you and what you do. They don't need to listen in on your calls: http://www.democracynow.org... http://news.yahoo.com/why-n... Obama has let down everyone who voted for him. Except I guess, the LGBT community. And blacks. Somehow, per Tommy's post they're happy. 5
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Irony missed by a hipster-hero as to why people use that GiTS avatar. 1
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Elilla Shadowheart • 5 years ago
Well, you know, IF you actually WATCHED any of GiTS:SAC, you would know what the saying is for: "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deafmutes" And the whole story of how "The Laughing Man" appreciated The Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger and "phonie, corrupt politicians". And don't forget the left-handed catcher's mitt that section 9 never caught-on to.... Man, some folks are so slow to catch-on, aren't they.... But, this reference is so far above people's heads, I suspect it goes without saying that it goes wasted on most. Hiding in plain sight... Best tool ever. 2
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
Or should I? • Reply • Share ›
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hercules40 • 5 years ago
You've noticed by now, I'm sure, your question remains unanswered. 1
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